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CARLDEAN
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quote:
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What you gotta understand at Arsenal at present is the interest payments on there stadium loans, do they go out and spend £60-70m every summer to try and stay up with utd and chelsea, or try and do things the way they are for the next 10 seasons, there has to be a balance, how many points were they off the league last season? was it 4 or 5, so a win and 2 draws, its very close, in 10 years they will be in a much better position, they will have a stadium paid for or a big chunk knocked off the mortgage that will take the club forward for the next 100 years.
where as Manchester Utd have been lumped with £700m corporate debt that will never get paid off unless the sell the club again, and just hope someone doesn't do the same.
Chelsea can only operate the way they do because of Abramovich, if he pulls out then we all know things will change at the bridge, so long term what Arsene Wenger is doing is best for the good of the club, because when he goes or keels over with stress, there is'nt anyone who is going to run that club the way he has.


Considering most of life now revolves around dept in some kind of form, I would much prefer to have the
dept and the success that Man Utd have had than no dept and no success.

After all m8, as you have stated:



"The game is about glory, it's about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom"

Danny Blanchflower
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Originally posted by pjd1972:
What you gotta understand at Arsenal at present is the interest payments on there stadium loans, do they go out and spend £60-70m every summer to try and stay up with utd and chelsea, or try and do things the way they are for the next 10 seasons, there has to be a balance, how many points were they off the league last season? was it 4 or 5, so a win and 2 draws, its very close, in 10 years they will be in a much better position, they will have a stadium paid for or a big chunk knocked off the mortgage that will take the club forward for the next 100 years.
where as Manchester Utd have been lumped with £700m corporate debt that will never get paid off unless the sell the club again, and just hope someone doesn't do the same.
Chelsea can only operate the way they do because of Abramovich, if he pulls out then we all know things will change at the bridge, so long term what Arsene Wenger is doing is best for the good of the club, because when he goes or keels over with stress, there is'nt anyone who is going to run that club the way he has.


Considering most of life now revolves around dept in some kind of form, I would much prefer to have the
dept and the success that Man Utd have had than no dept and no success.

After all m8, as you have stated:



"The game is about glory, it's about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom"

Danny Blanchflower


The Game is about Glory not going bust ,lol

I agree mate you have had success and glory, but its cost a fortune, which is great if you have the money, but Arsenal clearly don't, and remember they to have had success and glory over the last 10 years.

What are Utd going to do if uefa go forward with there rules about debt? Chelsea will just pay it off, other clubs can prove its mortgae debt, but poor utd have been lumped with corporate debt, which means they'll have to pay it off or not enter the champions league, this Platini will go for it, he and his uefa croanies can't stand the fact our clubs have a monopoly on the champions league OVER the last few seasons.
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its not a case of getting rid of wenger but rather getting dein back!

its no secret that arsene has the cash to spend every summer but i think the problem lies within the pay struture and the fact that wages are capped,

on one hand its good, its stops the likes of robinho going to a club that pays the most and not knowing what their name is! but on the other hand, if arsene showed interest, would robinho have looked at arsenal for a 70,000pound pay cut?

at the share holders meeting, hill-wood went on to say 'We will not hand the club over to someone who hasn't got Arsenal blood in the veins' which i fully agree with, but i think the board should think about opening the door to red and white holdings, if for no other reason then to at least invite dein back

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Arsene's interview tonight was class

" They keep kicking my players "

Crying or Very sad
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by pjd1972:
What you gotta understand at Arsenal at present is the interest payments on there stadium loans, do they go out and spend £60-70m every summer to try and stay up with utd and chelsea, or try and do things the way they are for the next 10 seasons, there has to be a balance, how many points were they off the league last season? was it 4 or 5, so a win and 2 draws, its very close, in 10 years they will be in a much better position, they will have a stadium paid for or a big chunk knocked off the mortgage that will take the club forward for the next 100 years.
where as Manchester Utd have been lumped with £700m corporate debt that will never get paid off unless the sell the club again, and just hope someone doesn't do the same.
Chelsea can only operate the way they do because of Abramovich, if he pulls out then we all know things will change at the bridge, so long term what Arsene Wenger is doing is best for the good of the club, because when he goes or keels over with stress, there is'nt anyone who is going to run that club the way he has.


Considering most of life now revolves around dept in some kind of form, I would much prefer to have the
dept and the success that Man Utd have had than no dept and no success.

After all m8, as you have stated:








"The game is about glory, it's about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom"

Danny Blanchflower


The Game is about Glory not going bust ,lol

I agree mate you have had success and glory, but its cost a fortune, which is great if you have the money, but Arsenal clearly don't, and remember they to have had success and glory over the last 10 years.

What are Utd going to do if uefa go forward with there rules about debt? Chelsea will just pay it off, other clubs can prove its mortgae debt, but poor utd have been lumped with corporate debt, which means they'll have to pay it off or not enter the champions league, this Platini will go for it, he and his uefa croanies can't stand the fact our clubs have a monopoly on the champions league OVER the last few seasons.



Lets face it Platini just likes the sound of his own bloody voice, don't get me wrong some of his ideas i agree
with but a lot are just fantasy.

As for the corporate dept, surely it can be turned into mortgage dept very easily if it needs to be, but as
I said above i cant see that happening.
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5............. hardly huge support for getting rid of wenger..
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